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		<title>By: tina</title>
		<link>http://antiquemommy.com/2009/06/01/mathy-or-artsy/comment-page-1/#comment-50001</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a great article about how math should be taught like art.  That&#039;s why I love the idea of teaching math skills using word problems.  I&#039;ve collected a bunch of great word problems for my kids to practice this summer.  Here is the link to the word problems and it also has that great article on math as art, which should help you feel like you are not alone.
http://livebinders.com/play/play?id=1686</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a great article about how math should be taught like art.  That&#8217;s why I love the idea of teaching math skills using word problems.  I&#8217;ve collected a bunch of great word problems for my kids to practice this summer.  Here is the link to the word problems and it also has that great article on math as art, which should help you feel like you are not alone.<br />
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		<title>By: Marian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 19:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having observed my 4 kids and many others, I&#039;m inclined to give a little more weight to nature! What a wonder it is to see hints and glimmers and sometimes firework shows of what God has placed within them! You can often see them within just the first few years of a kid&#039;s life. And sometimes not til later.

Really, I&#039;d just wait and see how math goes in school. As with a lot of things, I&#039;ve found that sometimes you just have to be patient for certain concepts to &quot;click&quot;. If things generally don&#039;t click, though, it may simply be a matter of finding a way that he understand things according to the unique wiring of HIS brain. Nothing wrong with that: Schools teach one way for many unique kids, so they don&#039;t hit everybody.

All that said, if you nudge your own awareness of it, there are so many ways to lightheartedly boost a kid&#039;s math awareness and foundation as you go through life and errands. Cakes, pies, cookies and pizzas are especially great for all math operations-- we&#039;re into food here!

I&#039;m pretty fascinated by my 6 year old&#039;s mind, as he has that special math-music connection going on. While not everyone has that particular gift or mode, I do believe that music is another thing that supports math and reading abilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having observed my 4 kids and many others, I&#8217;m inclined to give a little more weight to nature! What a wonder it is to see hints and glimmers and sometimes firework shows of what God has placed within them! You can often see them within just the first few years of a kid&#8217;s life. And sometimes not til later.</p>
<p>Really, I&#8217;d just wait and see how math goes in school. As with a lot of things, I&#8217;ve found that sometimes you just have to be patient for certain concepts to &#8220;click&#8221;. If things generally don&#8217;t click, though, it may simply be a matter of finding a way that he understand things according to the unique wiring of HIS brain. Nothing wrong with that: Schools teach one way for many unique kids, so they don&#8217;t hit everybody.</p>
<p>All that said, if you nudge your own awareness of it, there are so many ways to lightheartedly boost a kid&#8217;s math awareness and foundation as you go through life and errands. Cakes, pies, cookies and pizzas are especially great for all math operations&#8211; we&#8217;re into food here!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty fascinated by my 6 year old&#8217;s mind, as he has that special math-music connection going on. While not everyone has that particular gift or mode, I do believe that music is another thing that supports math and reading abilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never been friends with math.  My husband used to laugh at my lack of skills in the math department, yet he let me keep the checkbook.  Thank God for the technology that does the math for me.  I see the world through creative glasses, too. Somehow I have managed to design sweaters and other textiles that require  the use of math (enen the dreaded fractions). 

I hid my fear of math from my girls until they surpassed my limited knowledge. They figured me out when I started telling them to go ask their Dad to help them with their homework.  They are both in advanced math classes.

On the other hand they are creative, too. Are they creative because they have been exposed all their life to various art mediums, or is it in their genes? Both, I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never been friends with math.  My husband used to laugh at my lack of skills in the math department, yet he let me keep the checkbook.  Thank God for the technology that does the math for me.  I see the world through creative glasses, too. Somehow I have managed to design sweaters and other textiles that require  the use of math (enen the dreaded fractions). </p>
<p>I hid my fear of math from my girls until they surpassed my limited knowledge. They figured me out when I started telling them to go ask their Dad to help them with their homework.  They are both in advanced math classes.</p>
<p>On the other hand they are creative, too. Are they creative because they have been exposed all their life to various art mediums, or is it in their genes? Both, I think.</p>
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		<title>By: france59</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 14:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Antique Mommy!  I hope it isn&#039;t too late for you to find this comment.  I&#039;m one of the semi-rare math/artsy people.  I was a high school math teacher for 10 years and yet I love to draw, have done community theatre for years and thoroughly enjoy perusing a really large box of crayons to see the pretty colors!  My suggestion is, ask Sean to teach you his math lesson.  The best way to learn is to be a teacher.  He&#039;ll take such pride in showing you how to do something and you&#039;ll both benefit.  And there are always great examples of math in the real world.  

One example is the fact that the number 5 repeats itself in nature everywhere.  

http://britton.disted.camosun.bc.ca/fibslide/jbfibslide.htm

The beauty of the Golden Rectangle in Greek architecture.  The basic concept of the golden rectangle is that what we find most beautiful and most pleasing to the eye in architecture and art are based on the golden rectangle.    

http://images.google.com/images?q=golden+rectangle&amp;rls=com.microsoft:en-us&amp;oe=UTF-8&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;ei=aHwqSpLfH4eINvTEya0L&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=image_result_group&amp;resnum=4&amp;ct=title

And so many other wonderful ways to explore math in the more creative part of our world will make it more interesting for him (and you).  I hope you find some of this useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Antique Mommy!  I hope it isn&#8217;t too late for you to find this comment.  I&#8217;m one of the semi-rare math/artsy people.  I was a high school math teacher for 10 years and yet I love to draw, have done community theatre for years and thoroughly enjoy perusing a really large box of crayons to see the pretty colors!  My suggestion is, ask Sean to teach you his math lesson.  The best way to learn is to be a teacher.  He&#8217;ll take such pride in showing you how to do something and you&#8217;ll both benefit.  And there are always great examples of math in the real world.  </p>
<p>One example is the fact that the number 5 repeats itself in nature everywhere.  </p>
<p><a href="http://britton.disted.camosun.bc.ca/fibslide/jbfibslide.htm" rel="nofollow">http://britton.disted.camosun.bc.ca/fibslide/jbfibslide.htm</a></p>
<p>The beauty of the Golden Rectangle in Greek architecture.  The basic concept of the golden rectangle is that what we find most beautiful and most pleasing to the eye in architecture and art are based on the golden rectangle.    </p>
<p><a href="http://images.google.com/images?q=golden+rectangle&#038;rls=com.microsoft:en-us&#038;oe=UTF-8&#038;um=1&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;ei=aHwqSpLfH4eINvTEya0L&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=image_result_group&#038;resnum=4&#038;ct=title" rel="nofollow">http://images.google.com/images?q=golden+rectangle&#038;rls=com.microsoft:en-us&#038;oe=UTF-8&#038;um=1&#038;ie=UTF-8&#038;ei=aHwqSpLfH4eINvTEya0L&#038;sa=X&#038;oi=image_result_group&#038;resnum=4&#038;ct=title</a></p>
<p>And so many other wonderful ways to explore math in the more creative part of our world will make it more interesting for him (and you).  I hope you find some of this useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 11:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to believe if both characteristics are nurtured properly, they can grow right along with each other. I have a *very* out of the box thinker who is big into art and can make an afternoon&#039;s project out of some lanyard string, glue and balloon parts.

But she&#039;s had some amazing math teachers over the years who have known how to convert that creative streak into full-blown math exploration. I don&#039;t know how they do it, but they have. As a result, she&#039;s a creative kid working at least 1-2 grade levels ahead in the advanced math class at school.

And no, I was NEVER in advanced math.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to believe if both characteristics are nurtured properly, they can grow right along with each other. I have a *very* out of the box thinker who is big into art and can make an afternoon&#8217;s project out of some lanyard string, glue and balloon parts.</p>
<p>But she&#8217;s had some amazing math teachers over the years who have known how to convert that creative streak into full-blown math exploration. I don&#8217;t know how they do it, but they have. As a result, she&#8217;s a creative kid working at least 1-2 grade levels ahead in the advanced math class at school.</p>
<p>And no, I was NEVER in advanced math.</p>
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		<title>By: mama speak</title>
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		<dc:creator>mama speak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I should probably write a post on this at this point, but I can&#039;t help myself.  

Big is finishing K right now &amp; much of the &quot;math&quot; they did this year has a lot to do w/grouping and manipulatives.  Things I never would&#039;ve thought of as &quot;math&quot;.  But by now they&#039;re adding, subtracting &amp; even doing word problems (seriously!)  I think much of it has to do w/exposure and the type of feedback they get from those around them.  The first time Big did a word problem I just about fell over at how easy it was for her &amp; she could tell, so then she got excited and wants more.  I hear similar stories from the other parents.  
I think the key is exposure at an early age &amp; trying not to give them our issues.  They&#039;ll create their own in due time. ;-)  
I&#039;ll shut up now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I should probably write a post on this at this point, but I can&#8217;t help myself.  </p>
<p>Big is finishing K right now &amp; much of the &#8220;math&#8221; they did this year has a lot to do w/grouping and manipulatives.  Things I never would&#8217;ve thought of as &#8220;math&#8221;.  But by now they&#8217;re adding, subtracting &amp; even doing word problems (seriously!)  I think much of it has to do w/exposure and the type of feedback they get from those around them.  The first time Big did a word problem I just about fell over at how easy it was for her &amp; she could tell, so then she got excited and wants more.  I hear similar stories from the other parents.<br />
I think the key is exposure at an early age &amp; trying not to give them our issues.  They&#8217;ll create their own in due time. <img src='http://antiquemommy.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I&#8217;ll shut up now.</p>
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		<title>By: mama speak</title>
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		<dc:creator>mama speak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also wanted to say, I can&#039;t spell to save my life.  (Audio dyslexia, I can teach phonics, I just can use them. For real.)  But I can read extremely fast (avg 100 pg per hr, self taught) and have extremely high comprehension levels.  I probably would&#039;ve flunked out of high school if not for spell check.  The ability to spell does not directly relate to comprehension, and writing.  I&#039;m living proof of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also wanted to say, I can&#8217;t spell to save my life.  (Audio dyslexia, I can teach phonics, I just can use them. For real.)  But I can read extremely fast (avg 100 pg per hr, self taught) and have extremely high comprehension levels.  I probably would&#8217;ve flunked out of high school if not for spell check.  The ability to spell does not directly relate to comprehension, and writing.  I&#8217;m living proof of this.</p>
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		<title>By: mama speak</title>
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		<dc:creator>mama speak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I did not read thru all 58 comments, cuz your readers do like to write, don&#039;t they (and I will probably prove that fact as well).  So I apologize if I&#039;m redundant.  

Art is a form of math.  Seriously.  I&#039;m sure that show numbers could prove my point, but if you look at the various ways our world fits together, there is all kinds of math involved.  It&#039;s so ingrained that we don&#039;t see it as math.  (No, I did not smoke anything tonight.) AND if someone showed you the formulas for the math related to your art, you would most likely understand it completely, because you now have an understanding of how it works in the world &amp; it makes sense to you! 

That being said, I was &quot;gifted&quot; in math until my Freshman yr of high school.  Then they put me in an advanced class for me and remedial for all the Jr &amp; Sr in it. A bit intimidating.  I realized I could boost my GPA by back tracking &amp; taking the appropriate level for grade classes &amp; did that.  Too bad our system encourages the value of the &quot;grade&quot; instead of what is actually learned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I did not read thru all 58 comments, cuz your readers do like to write, don&#8217;t they (and I will probably prove that fact as well).  So I apologize if I&#8217;m redundant.  </p>
<p>Art is a form of math.  Seriously.  I&#8217;m sure that show numbers could prove my point, but if you look at the various ways our world fits together, there is all kinds of math involved.  It&#8217;s so ingrained that we don&#8217;t see it as math.  (No, I did not smoke anything tonight.) AND if someone showed you the formulas for the math related to your art, you would most likely understand it completely, because you now have an understanding of how it works in the world &amp; it makes sense to you! </p>
<p>That being said, I was &#8220;gifted&#8221; in math until my Freshman yr of high school.  Then they put me in an advanced class for me and remedial for all the Jr &amp; Sr in it. A bit intimidating.  I realized I could boost my GPA by back tracking &amp; taking the appropriate level for grade classes &amp; did that.  Too bad our system encourages the value of the &#8220;grade&#8221; instead of what is actually learned.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah @ BecomingSarah.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah @ BecomingSarah.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 22:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it takes YEARS.

As the daughter of two accountants who devoted an enormous amount of time to encouraging their children in academic (especially mathematic) pursuits, I was always a math person until it started to involve IDEAS more than actual FACTS.  I liked the numbers and the certainty and those ideas weren&#039;t always as certain as I wanted them to be.

At that point in time, everything changed.  It was a slow shift, of course, but over the course of about a year I went from being a numbers and math person to being a more creative sort.  I found out that I was good at other things besides numbers, so I left math in the dust.

I was 16.  And now I know that unlike creativity, when you let numbers pass you by?  It&#039;s hard as Hell to catch up again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it takes YEARS.</p>
<p>As the daughter of two accountants who devoted an enormous amount of time to encouraging their children in academic (especially mathematic) pursuits, I was always a math person until it started to involve IDEAS more than actual FACTS.  I liked the numbers and the certainty and those ideas weren&#8217;t always as certain as I wanted them to be.</p>
<p>At that point in time, everything changed.  It was a slow shift, of course, but over the course of about a year I went from being a numbers and math person to being a more creative sort.  I found out that I was good at other things besides numbers, so I left math in the dust.</p>
<p>I was 16.  And now I know that unlike creativity, when you let numbers pass you by?  It&#8217;s hard as Hell to catch up again.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really relate to this post - it tells my story to.  I honestly believe though that a person can be both.  My husband loves math, teaches science and is a very talented artist.  Granted not everyone is talented in all areas, but every area can be developed.  I am going to follow your example and try not to pass on my dislike of math to my children.  It is hard work for me to learn my addition facts with my 2nd grader, and honestly she got them and I&#039;m not sure I did.  But we will for sure tell her how important in today&#039;s world math still is.  We don&#039;t want her to be able to be manipulated by people who can do the math and use it against her.  We see that all the time.  I hate it when I fall prey to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really relate to this post &#8211; it tells my story to.  I honestly believe though that a person can be both.  My husband loves math, teaches science and is a very talented artist.  Granted not everyone is talented in all areas, but every area can be developed.  I am going to follow your example and try not to pass on my dislike of math to my children.  It is hard work for me to learn my addition facts with my 2nd grader, and honestly she got them and I&#8217;m not sure I did.  But we will for sure tell her how important in today&#8217;s world math still is.  We don&#8217;t want her to be able to be manipulated by people who can do the math and use it against her.  We see that all the time.  I hate it when I fall prey to it.</p>
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